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- From: Keith Blakemore-Noble <keith@pfloyd.demon.co.uk>
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
- Subject: Re: AT UK redundancies
- Date: Sat, 27 Jan 96 14:12:33 GMT
- Message-ID: <9601271412.AA002qp@pfloyd.demon.co.uk>
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- On or around Sat, 20 Jan 96, Allan Girvan is alledged to have muttered
- something along the lines of -
-
- AG> On Wed, 17 Jan 96, C:WINSOCKKA9QSPOOLMAIL wrote:
- AG>
- AG> > In article: <9601170023.AA000lo@girvan.demon.co.uk> Allan Girvan
- AG> > <allan@girvan.demon.co.uk> writes:
- AG>
- AG> > > How do you figure that Escom didn't want to own the Amiga? Did they buy it
- AG> > > by accident? Did someone hold a gun to their heads?
- AG> >
- AG> > Well, cast your mind back to soon before the Great Auction, when Escom first
- AG> > expressed an interest.
- AG> >
- AG> > They *stated* that all they wanted was to buy the NAME Commodore, to use on
- AG> > their PeeCees (the C= name being rather well liked in PeeCee circles abroad,
- AG> > aparantly).
- AG>
- AG> Hmm.. You got me there. I don't remember this. (I'm not saying it didn't
- AG> happen - just that I can't recall hearing it).
-
- I believe that Jason has answered this (I cannot remember who the source was).
-
- AG> > However, they were told that it was an all or nothing deal, so they
- AG> > eventually decided to buy the Amiga as well, and have since emarked upon a
- AG> > half-hearted attempt to sell the thing (based upon their actions rather than
- AG> > their words, that is).
- AG>
- AG> But AT announced at the outset that the initial batch of "new" Amigas was
- AG> being produced to fill existing orders. They reasoned (quite correctly IMHO)
- AG> that there was no point in throwing money into advertising a product that
- AG> they would then be hard pressed to provide. The rights and wrongs of this
- AG> strategy were discussed here at the time.
-
- So, the Amigas were made to fulfill existing orders, hence no advertising was
- needed because they were already as good as sold.
-
- Why, then, have most of the AT UK staff been made redundant 'due to poor
- sales over Christmas'?!??!
-
- Obviously, they did not sell nearly as many Amigas as they wanted, ergo
- they should have advertised the Amiga from the start (as many people have
- been saying all along, myself included).
-
-
- AG> > > (And bear in mind that the AT guys read this newsgroup!)
- AG> >
- AG> > Good. Perhaps they can explain why they are STILL not advertising or
- AG> > promoting the Amiga at all. (Poor sales over Christmas - just what did they
- AG> > expect with no advertising?)
- AG>
- AG> I agree with you entirely on this point. The initial batches of Amigas must
- AG> have been sold by now (by AT's own admission they were all pre-ordered) so
- AG> where are the new adverts? The test will be how (or, indeed, *if*) AT
- AG> promote the new Internet package. If they screw up then I think it's fair to
- AG> say that the Amiga (in the UK at least) will wither and die.
-
- Hear hear. ISTR AT claiming that they would embark upon an aggressive marketing
- campaign just after Christmas (what a stupid time to start, IMHO!), pointing
- out just how good the Amiga is compared to PeeCees, Mirco$loth WinLose, etc.
-
- So where is this advertising campaign?
-
- Come on, AT / ESCOM, get your act together.
-
- AG> > > > C:\WINSOCK\KA9Q\SPOOL\MAIL
- AG> > >
- AG> > > Hmm... A decidedly suspect Amiga user there!
- AG> >
- AG> > Cheap shot, and wrong!!!
- AG>
- AG> Sorry! But you gotta admit - using the dreaded MS backslash in an Amiga
- AG> group is like showing a red rag to a bull!
-
- :-) I am now posting from home, mainly because our PeeCee based Internet access
- at work is broken - the PeeCee does not work properly anymore! Needless to say,
- we are looking out for a good 2nd hand A4000 to take over its duties :-)
-
- AG> Cheers,
-
- Aye, cheers indeed.
-
- TTFN,
- Keith.
-
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